Pembroke & Tenby models
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Pembrokelad
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Pembroke & Tenby models
I recently purchased the three models (brake van, covered van and cattle truck) of the above railway company from phfmodels which was advertised in (I think, NL 181) and found them to be a good likeness. Well done PHF Models!
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PGG0132
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Re: Pembroke & Tenby models
I picked up a P&T van and the P&T brake van and agree they look good - haven't started work in them yet as they will have to be converted to P4.
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glynrhedynog
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Re: Pembroke & Tenby models
What colour was used by the P&T for its brake vans and freight stock?
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Pembrokelad
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Re: Pembroke & Tenby models
It varies!
The photos I have of P&TR goods vehicles are such that the Brake van, covered van and cattle wagon appear to be black, these are in 'works' phots (Gloucester Carriage and Wagon Co Ltd. However, Truck 54 appears to be in white! There were some extensive lime quarries at Tenby (Black Rock) which were owned by David Davies and Ezra Roberts (the contractors who built the line throughout) and they ran lime to parts of Central Wales so No 54 may well have been used in that traffic.
Lime wash was certainly used within the cattle wagons as the Morning Post reported on31st March 1880 that the foreman in charge of the Cattle Sept at Pembroke Station was charged with causing cruelty to pigs when he placed them into a cattle wagon which had a thick coat of lime wash. During the journey, the lime wash became wet and the pigs were severely burnt. He was fined £5.
The document RAIL 559-07 relating to the Stock-taking for the eventual 'amalgamation' with the GWR has several paints listed which include green, brown, red, japan black and pale engine varnish.
The locomotive photos I have appear to show the engines were lined out and were probably green in colour with black lining with possibly a light colour to 'highlight' it.
The wagon lettering may have been 'silver painted' whilst there was also 'gold paint' which I assume were for the carriage numbers.
The photos I have of P&TR goods vehicles are such that the Brake van, covered van and cattle wagon appear to be black, these are in 'works' phots (Gloucester Carriage and Wagon Co Ltd. However, Truck 54 appears to be in white! There were some extensive lime quarries at Tenby (Black Rock) which were owned by David Davies and Ezra Roberts (the contractors who built the line throughout) and they ran lime to parts of Central Wales so No 54 may well have been used in that traffic.
Lime wash was certainly used within the cattle wagons as the Morning Post reported on31st March 1880 that the foreman in charge of the Cattle Sept at Pembroke Station was charged with causing cruelty to pigs when he placed them into a cattle wagon which had a thick coat of lime wash. During the journey, the lime wash became wet and the pigs were severely burnt. He was fined £5.
The document RAIL 559-07 relating to the Stock-taking for the eventual 'amalgamation' with the GWR has several paints listed which include green, brown, red, japan black and pale engine varnish.
The locomotive photos I have appear to show the engines were lined out and were probably green in colour with black lining with possibly a light colour to 'highlight' it.
The wagon lettering may have been 'silver painted' whilst there was also 'gold paint' which I assume were for the carriage numbers.
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Pembrokelad
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Re: Pembroke & Tenby models
I have checked further into the case of cruelty to animals as reported in my previous post.
The Morning Post stated that the fine was £5. and this in turn was implied by the Daily Telegraph on April 7th 1880,
However, at the Board of Directors' monthly meeting held on 23rd April in London, Minute 1845 states:-
1845 - Cruelty to Animals.
The Chairman drew attention to a paragraph in the Daily Telegraph of April 7th imputing gross cruelty to one of the servants of the Company placing pigs amongst quick lime. The Secretary stated that the newspaper report was very exaggerated, the Magistrates having inflicted a fine of 2/6 instead of £5. The General Manager reported the matter under Company’s official investigation.
Ordered. That the investigation be strictly followed up and that measures be adopted to prevent quick lime being used to the detriment of animals.
(see RAIL 559-03).
The Morning Post stated that the fine was £5. and this in turn was implied by the Daily Telegraph on April 7th 1880,
However, at the Board of Directors' monthly meeting held on 23rd April in London, Minute 1845 states:-
1845 - Cruelty to Animals.
The Chairman drew attention to a paragraph in the Daily Telegraph of April 7th imputing gross cruelty to one of the servants of the Company placing pigs amongst quick lime. The Secretary stated that the newspaper report was very exaggerated, the Magistrates having inflicted a fine of 2/6 instead of £5. The General Manager reported the matter under Company’s official investigation.
Ordered. That the investigation be strictly followed up and that measures be adopted to prevent quick lime being used to the detriment of animals.
(see RAIL 559-03).