TAFF VALE/GWR 4-4-2
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Newport_rod
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TAFF VALE/GWR 4-4-2
I've come across a kit for a TVR 4-4-2T in 4mm scale comprising a resin body kit with various fittings on eBay. It is intended to be paired with the Dapol 0-4-2 chassis. The manufacturer's code is DS437A but more I cannot add.
My old layout Llanastr; my WIP layout Crindau Pill; my club Newport MRS
Hoff Rheilffyrdd Aberhonddu a Merthyr Tydfil yw y gorau sydd yng Nghymru - Twm Glan Crawnon 1865
Hoff Rheilffyrdd Aberhonddu a Merthyr Tydfil yw y gorau sydd yng Nghymru - Twm Glan Crawnon 1865
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Daifly
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Re: TAFF VALE/GWR 4-4-2
Hi Rod
The kit was originally produced by Dave Slater under the Dean Sidings (DS again!) label. Dave 'retired' in 2015 and the range, including this kit, passed to Phoenix precision Paints. https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/4-welshkits
Dave
The kit was originally produced by Dave Slater under the Dean Sidings (DS again!) label. Dave 'retired' in 2015 and the range, including this kit, passed to Phoenix precision Paints. https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/4-welshkits
Dave
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andrewnummelin
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Re: TAFF VALE/GWR 4-4-2
I wonder whether the body moulding has been made accurately or modified to fit the commercial chassis as the prototype wheelbases were significantly diffeent.
Coupled wheels: TVR 4-4-2T 7'10"; GWR 48xx 7'4".
Rear driver to trailing wheel: TVR 4-4-2T 6'; GWR 48xx 8'2".
Coupled wheels: TVR 4-4-2T 7'10"; GWR 48xx 7'4".
Rear driver to trailing wheel: TVR 4-4-2T 6'; GWR 48xx 8'2".
Regards,
Andrew Nummelin
Andrew Nummelin
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stephebm
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Re: TAFF VALE/GWR 4-4-2
As far as I can tell there is nothing in the body kit to restrict a scale chassis.
I attach a comparison between TVR Official drawing 10 (as handed to gwr) and my measurements of my Dean sidings unassembled uncleaned up kit.
I am not claiming the apparent accuracy of my measurements - straight off my digital calipers
Space internal between tank sides is 30mm.
I can't work out how to format the following; there are basically 4 columns; Title of measurement, Official diagram statement in feet and inches, Official dimensionconverted to 4mm, Dean sidings measurement by me. Anything in brackets is a comment
Description Official diagram Dean
4mm scale
ft in mm mm
Over buffers 34ft 6in 138 138.33
(124.33+(2*7 - buffers))
Footplate length 31 ft 1in 124.33 127
(Real 1ft 6.5in+5ft 9in + 6ft 11.5in+7ft 10in +6ft+3ft 6.5in)
Width over tanks 8ft 4.5” 33 34.83
Width over cab 7ft 9” 31 32.03
Body height 9ft 8in 38.58 40.5
(bottom footplate to top of the chimney)
Boiler length 11ft 44 44.56
(not including smokebox)
Smokebox length 19.22
Front bogie w/b 5ft 20 20.37
(Model (slot measures 24.29+20.46)/2 (edges of axle slots)
Observable difference Model has top of bunker level with the bottom of the cab –
The official diagram takes it halfway up the cab, level with the top of the firebox or so
Does anyone know a common database of model chassis axle spacings; a glaring hole in model railway resources - I am not averse to using for example LNER chassis if they can easily be adjusted to fit! Or indeed a real loco axle spacing database.
I attach a comparison between TVR Official drawing 10 (as handed to gwr) and my measurements of my Dean sidings unassembled uncleaned up kit.
I am not claiming the apparent accuracy of my measurements - straight off my digital calipers
Space internal between tank sides is 30mm.
I can't work out how to format the following; there are basically 4 columns; Title of measurement, Official diagram statement in feet and inches, Official dimensionconverted to 4mm, Dean sidings measurement by me. Anything in brackets is a comment
Description Official diagram Dean
4mm scale
ft in mm mm
Over buffers 34ft 6in 138 138.33
(124.33+(2*7 - buffers))
Footplate length 31 ft 1in 124.33 127
(Real 1ft 6.5in+5ft 9in + 6ft 11.5in+7ft 10in +6ft+3ft 6.5in)
Width over tanks 8ft 4.5” 33 34.83
Width over cab 7ft 9” 31 32.03
Body height 9ft 8in 38.58 40.5
(bottom footplate to top of the chimney)
Boiler length 11ft 44 44.56
(not including smokebox)
Smokebox length 19.22
Front bogie w/b 5ft 20 20.37
(Model (slot measures 24.29+20.46)/2 (edges of axle slots)
Observable difference Model has top of bunker level with the bottom of the cab –
The official diagram takes it halfway up the cab, level with the top of the firebox or so
Does anyone know a common database of model chassis axle spacings; a glaring hole in model railway resources - I am not averse to using for example LNER chassis if they can easily be adjusted to fit! Or indeed a real loco axle spacing database.