GW Cardiff & Newport Divisions coach working 1930s
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GW Cardiff & Newport Divisions coach working 1930s
I would like to know what GW coach sets existed in the Cardiff Division in the 1930s. So far I know that there were 16 5 coach sets and five b-sets that were specifically ordered for the Cardiff Division. I assume that these were to replace older absorbed stock. Three of the B-sets were labelled Cardiff Division No.40, 41 & 49, so it appears that there were a lot of fixed formation. Looking at photos there were also a lot of old GW clerestories in use; were these spares and strengtheners or allocated to fixed sets?
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Richard Spratt
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Re: GW Cardiff Division coach working 1930s
Chris,
Thanks for that information. What is the source please?
Why do you think there were at least 9 B-sets in the Cardiff Division? Could some of them have been absorbed stock? The B-sets I know of, which can be identified from the GWR Carriage Lot list are:
No. 40 6411 & 6412 E140 built 9/1930
No.41 6413 & 6414 E140 built 9/1930
No.49 6983 & 6984 E140 built 5/1931
No.xx 6812 & 6813 E147 built 11/1935
No.yy 6814 & 6815 E147 built 11/1935
Given that the first 3 B-sets arrived in Cardiff about the same time as Sets 20 to 25 I conclude that they replaced existing sets formed of pre grouping stock.
There was also a pair of brake thirds, diagram D91, nos. 4678 & 4679 that were allocated to Cardiff Division when built in 1925.
thanks
Richard
Thanks for that information. What is the source please?
Why do you think there were at least 9 B-sets in the Cardiff Division? Could some of them have been absorbed stock? The B-sets I know of, which can be identified from the GWR Carriage Lot list are:
No. 40 6411 & 6412 E140 built 9/1930
No.41 6413 & 6414 E140 built 9/1930
No.49 6983 & 6984 E140 built 5/1931
No.xx 6812 & 6813 E147 built 11/1935
No.yy 6814 & 6815 E147 built 11/1935
Given that the first 3 B-sets arrived in Cardiff about the same time as Sets 20 to 25 I conclude that they replaced existing sets formed of pre grouping stock.
There was also a pair of brake thirds, diagram D91, nos. 4678 & 4679 that were allocated to Cardiff Division when built in 1925.
thanks
Richard
Richard Spratt
Modelling the Alexandra (Newport & South Wales) Docks & Railway, Barry Railway and Rhymney Railway at Penrhos Junctions. http://www.penrhos.me.uk
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Re: GW Cardiff & Newport Divisions coach working 1930s
Having found a Newport- Merthyr working that went via Caerphilly & Pontypridd I’ve extended my research to include the Newport division. Also since the workings derived from pre-grouping workings I’ve started looking at Taff, Barry & Rhymney coach sets.
Has anyone got or know of coach working programs for the Cardiff and Newport Valleys from say 1900 to 1940?
Thanks Richard
Has anyone got or know of coach working programs for the Cardiff and Newport Valleys from say 1900 to 1940?
Thanks Richard
Richard Spratt
Modelling the Alexandra (Newport & South Wales) Docks & Railway, Barry Railway and Rhymney Railway at Penrhos Junctions. http://www.penrhos.me.uk
GWR coaches. https://GWRCoaches.org.uk
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Re: GW Cardiff & Newport Divisions coach working 1930s
I have a CWP from 1/10/45. I have tried to attach an image but failed. It does list some B sets. Richard, I can be contacted at cambrian@hmrs.org.uk.
Regards
Alan
Regards
Alan
Alan Rhodes
(HMRS Cambrian Railways Steward)
(HMRS Cambrian Railways Steward)