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Brake van centre tail lamps

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:37 pm
by andrewnummelin
Some vans had a tail lamp that shone through the end planking like this TVR one:
Scan1.jpg
As I wish to make a model of a van with such a feature I've been looking at some drawings, a typical one shows:
HMRS19843 plan.jpg
What is shown in this plan view? There's nothing visible in the end or side elevations in several different drawings of TVR and RR vans that I've examined.

At one time I wondered if the lamp were within a box of some sort but this poor photo would indicate otherwise:
RR brake van 26.png
I find it difficult to imagine that the lamp were simply placed on the floor as this would not really be safe. These days one would worry about someone tripping over it but in the 19th century I suspect the concern would be that a careless brakesman could kick it so that it would not be visible at the tail of the train.

Does anyone have any extra information?

Re: Brake van centre tail lamps

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:41 pm
by Cwmtudu
On this drawing of a Cambrian Railways 15 ton Goods Brake Van there is a suggestion that the lamp is held in place by the use of a lamp iron.
John
rear lamp plan view (400x335).jpg
rear lamp side view (400x385).jpg

Re: Brake van centre tail lamps

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:00 am
by andrewnummelin
John,
Many thanks. This looks like a good arrangement.