Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

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Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby wokmad » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:47 pm

The attached view published by Photomatic shows GWR 1300 at Hemyock on the Culm Valley Light Railway in May 1929 with a mixed train. The interesting feature is the 7 compartment carriage which to me looks very much like one of the ex-PTR vehicles. The short overall length of only 42ft 0in would have made them suitable for this line, from which anything much longer was barred. If true, it would have been one of the all-thirds, PT 2/GWR4336 or PT 6/GWR 4349, as the as the former composites, nos. 3 and 7, had an asymmetrical door spacing.

This view is not in the recent History of the CVLR by Colin Maggs, Oakwood 2006, and this carriage not mentioned, although he does deal with those from the ex-Monmouth Railway & Canal, the Manchester & Milford Railway, and latterly the Barry Railway.

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Re: Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby wokmad » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:50 pm

Can someone tell me how to add an attachment. I get a message telling the Board Quota has been reached.
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Re: Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby Wagonworks_andy » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:05 am

Hi Wokmad, your image size is too big.
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Re: Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby Wagonworks_andy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:06 pm

GW1300 PTR coach at Hemyock.
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Re: Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby Noel » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:21 pm

The coach seems to be a former composite [the three compartments nearest the camera are narrower than the next two] and may have been a tri-composite, although the far end compartment seems to be a guards/brake compartment as it appears to have a grab handle on the lower body [possibly a conversion?]. My knowledge of PTR coaches is zero, but did the PTR use centreless bogies? Also, would the PTR have required carriage roof boards? The coach has the brackets for them.
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Re: Port Talbot coach on the Culm Valley Railway

Postby Noel » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:50 am

wokmad wrote:The short overall length of only 42ft 0in would have made them suitable for this line, from which anything much longer was barred


The Barry coaches were 54ft 6ins I believe, but I'm not sure if this was over the body or overall. The Thompson replacement was 52ft 4ins over the body.
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