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Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby Wagonworks_andy » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:31 pm

Attached is a picture I recently acquired.
I think it is Dyffyrn Rhondda on the R&SBR.
Can anyone confirm this? Also any idea about the date and what is the bridge in the background?
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Re: Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby Cwmtudu » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:17 am

If it is Dyffryn Rhondda then this 1919 Ordnance Survey map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/285001 ... /12/101077 shows the bridge to be carrying a tramway between the colliery on the right of the photograph to a waste tip.
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Re: Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby Noel » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:56 pm

"The Signal Box" [The Signalling Study Group, OPC 1998] indicates that the Taff Vale used a variant version of McKenzie and Holland Type 3 boxes, the variation being a greater level of decoration, particularly the barge boards. The R&SB used the same design exclusively [until 1906, after which the GW built any new boxes to their own designs] and apparently no-one else did. There box shown lacks the usual TV walkway at the front, the balustrade has cross supports, rather than the usual TV horizontal bars, and there are no finials, but there seems no reason to doubt that it is R&SB.

The photo shows a bridge which is not present on the 1899 map [which would have been based on earlier information], but is on the 1918 map [ditto], and the railway has become significantly more extensive in that time. The pit's major expansion in output was in the first decade of the 20th century, which is consistent with the changes in the railway [unfortunately I don't have the R A Cooke book for this line, so cannot be more precise about the date of the changes]. By 1918 there were two boxes at Duffryn Rhondda, one on a new site well to the West [ruled out by the signalling diagram https://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwq/S1885.htm], the other, Duffryn Rhondda East https://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwq/S1886.htm, on the same site as the earlier box. This was a GW 27c box by BR days https://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/8624593791/, and there seems no particular reason to assume that this is anything other than the replacement dating from the changes to the layout.

None of this is in any way conclusive, but what we can see in the photograph is, I believe, consistent with the original R&SB box at Duffryn Rhondda circa 1900-1905.
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Re: Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby Rhobat Bryn » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:57 pm

May I point out that 'Dyffyrn' is actually spelt "Dyffryn".
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Re: Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby wokmad » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:13 pm

I have an original postcard of this view, franked 1908. I am pretty certain this is the R&SBR, showing Duffryn Rhondda Sidings, later East, signal box. The engine is one of the PTR 0-6-2Ts nos. 4 or 7, sold in 1901, becoming R&SBR 23 or 24.

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Re: Dyffyrn Rhondda

Postby Wagonworks_andy » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:24 pm

Many thanks for all the information.
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